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#1 2019-11-18 13:30:37

winterer
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Completely stuck

As I have exhausted all angles of attack that I can think of, I'd be grateful for any (cryptic) hint.

I tried removing certain letters, removing the other letters, following certain letter sequences, cross-referencing pairs of same letters as well as pairs of consecutive letters from the presumed keyword, and generally drawing lines all over the grid until I couldn't any longer see the forest for the trees. I have even looked at all the hints provided by the website, but they didn't help me. I'm completely stuck.

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#2 2019-11-18 15:07:58

Allan87
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Re: Completely stuck

Hi Winterer,

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Have you seen at the bottom left, the cross ? What does it represent when you have to coordinate ?

Good luck

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#3 2019-11-18 15:56:46

winterer
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Re: Completely stuck

Thanks - that was the trigger I needed.

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#4 2019-11-18 20:08:55

Stavr0s
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Re: Completely stuck

I'm also still stuck here. I've got the basic idea but still am unable to make a useful word out of it. Two questions remain:

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Given that the cross is the origin, can we discard the leftmost row and lower column assuming they're coordinate 0?

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how to pair up the letters and convert them to coordinates? My thought was just pairs of consecutive letters, A=1, b=2, etc... Trying this out didn't get me anywhere.

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#5 2019-11-19 17:57:50

deadman88
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Re: Completely stuck

need help too

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#6 2019-11-19 19:53:45

Rolytic
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Re: Completely stuck

Stavr0s wrote:

I'm also still stuck here. I've got the basic idea but still am unable to make a useful word out of it. Two questions remain:

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Given that the cross is the origin, can we discard the leftmost row and lower column assuming they're coordinate 0?

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how to pair up the letters and convert them to coordinates? My thought was just pairs of consecutive letters, A=1, b=2, etc... Trying this out didn't get me anywhere.

Try not to overthink it too much.

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You don’t need numbers for this one. 

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#7 2019-11-19 20:04:20

Stavr0s
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Re: Completely stuck

Thanks.. that did the trick! Being an engineer certainly doesn't help here :-)

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#8 2019-11-20 17:34:38

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

Any clue?

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#9 2019-11-21 09:15:28

deadman88
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Re: Completely stuck

Nope, someone please PM me or give me a more direct clue please.

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#10 2019-11-21 12:02:35

Stavr0s
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Re: Completely stuck

Hey deadman,

What approaches have you already tried here/what direction are you thinking? The hints on the site helped me figure out the approach, maybe I can nudge you in the right direction.

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#11 2019-11-22 02:09:21

jumbomumbo
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Re: Completely stuck

Not able to understand how to use No Censorship as coordinates ?

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#12 2019-11-22 13:01:46

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

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we begin by + and how we find the pairs?

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#13 2019-11-23 19:09:20

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

any thought?

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#14 2019-11-25 02:02:57

jumbomumbo
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Re: Completely stuck

Still cannot get it... any more hints

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#15 2019-11-26 16:28:56

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

No censorship. How use it?

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#16 2019-11-26 17:21:47

winterer
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Re: Completely stuck

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How many elements do you need to point to a place on a map?

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The key phrase, is it odd?

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#17 2019-11-26 19:28:49

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

Don't know how to start.

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#18 2019-11-26 21:14:30

doublecross
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Re: Completely stuck

Ah, got it finally!

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although I managed to guess the answer previously

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#19 2019-11-26 21:55:51

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

So, tell me a clue!!!

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#20 2019-11-26 23:13:33

doublecross
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Re: Completely stuck

I got it from winterer's clue

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#21 2019-11-27 09:11:25

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

I saw it but don't help. more expalin

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#22 2019-11-27 09:21:58

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

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do I have to delete  the letters no censorship?

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#23 2019-11-27 19:41:17

Stavr0s
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Re: Completely stuck

Hi Alex. Assuming you've read the entire thread:

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- you don't need to delete anything from the grid, you need to 'select' some letters, which form a word
- which letters to select can be found by 'pairing up' "no censorship" some way into coordinates related to the grid on the right page.
- don't overthink things here, no need to convert anything to numbers, just try the first thing coming up in your mind.

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#24 2019-11-27 20:12:01

Alex55
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Re: Completely stuck

Thanks Stavr0s. I don't understand how to

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'pairing up' "no censorship" some way into coordinates related to the grid on the right page

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#25 2019-11-28 21:51:12

Stavr0s
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Re: Completely stuck

WARNING! Following spoiler practically spells out the solution

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each pair of consecutive letters (n,o  c,e  n,s ...) is a coordinate. Now look for the + in the grid and you've found the origin of both axes, aka the coordinate system you can use to translate each coordinate (2 letters) to 1 letter

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