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#1 2019-11-18 23:16:30

winterer
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Caught out

I don't even know where to start...

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#2 2019-11-19 08:28:45

doublecross
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Re: Caught out

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I successfully guessed this one!

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#3 2019-11-20 19:19:33

winterer
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Re: Caught out

Managed to crack the first two steps...

And then "I had it" - finally.

Last edited by winterer (2019-11-20 21:10:25)

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#4 2019-11-26 12:50:07

Becky_P
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Re: Caught out

I can't identify what I have created

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#5 2019-11-26 13:51:20

winterer
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Re: Caught out

Becky_P wrote:

I can't identify what I have created

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It's less a matter of identification, but rather of recognition.

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#6 2019-11-26 17:28:53

Rolytic
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Re: Caught out

winterer wrote:
Becky_P wrote:

I can't identify what I have created

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It's less a matter of identification, but rather of recognition.

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I've got it shaded and I'm positive it's right. But I don't recognize it. I feel like maybe this just wasn't part of my childhood or something similar.

Can someone throw me a starting point of how to recognize this?

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#7 2019-11-26 18:16:41

winterer
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Re: Caught out

Rolytic wrote:
winterer wrote:
Becky_P wrote:

I can't identify what I have created

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It's less a matter of identification, but rather of recognition.

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I've got it shaded and I'm positive it's right. But I don't recognize it. I feel like maybe this just wasn't part of my childhood or something similar.

Can someone throw me a starting point of how to recognize this?

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Are you positive?? Have you searched for it? In verse??

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#8 2019-11-26 19:39:45

Rolytic
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Re: Caught out

winterer wrote:
Rolytic wrote:
winterer wrote:
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It's less a matter of identification, but rather of recognition.

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I've got it shaded and I'm positive it's right. But I don't recognize it. I feel like maybe this just wasn't part of my childhood or something similar.

Can someone throw me a starting point of how to recognize this?

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Are you positive?? Have you searched for it? In verse??

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I went through the book again but nothing. sad
I even tried looking through the background layers.

Can you give me a range or something?

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#9 2019-11-26 20:01:33

winterer
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Re: Caught out

Rolytic wrote:
winterer wrote:
Rolytic wrote:
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I've got it shaded and I'm positive it's right. But I don't recognize it. I feel like maybe this just wasn't part of my childhood or something similar.

Can someone throw me a starting point of how to recognize this?

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Are you positive?? Have you searched for it? In verse??

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I went through the book again but nothing. sad
I even tried looking through the background layers.

Can you give me a range or something?

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What you are looking for is symmetric. It's also small, but not in the background.

And searching "in verse" has a double meaning. If you haven't seen that, I have a negative feeling about your positivity.

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#10 2019-11-27 11:05:01

Becky_P
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Re: Caught out

I knew I had seen it but then, as mentioned above, "I had it" as well.  Good hint by the way smile

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#11 2019-12-31 13:09:25

Alex55
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Re: Caught out

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the eleven numbers are puzzles?

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#12 2020-02-27 01:11:44

Cpostano
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Re: Caught out

Could really use some help about where to even start on this one, completely lost on the instructions.....

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#13 2020-02-27 03:39:17

summer
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Re: Caught out

Cpostano wrote:

Could really use some help about where to even start on this one, completely lost on the instructions.....

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You're looking to match the numbers with things you've already seen elsewhere.

In particular:

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Boxes that match the one containing the numbers

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#14 2020-02-27 22:39:57

Cpostano
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Re: Caught out

summer wrote:
Cpostano wrote:

Could really use some help about where to even start on this one, completely lost on the instructions.....

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You're looking to match the numbers with things you've already seen elsewhere.

In particular:

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Boxes that match the one containing the numbers

I must be thick, still not clear on what that means....any other nudges?

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#15 2020-03-24 19:43:42

Cpostano
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Re: Caught out

Cpostano wrote:
summer wrote:
Cpostano wrote:

Could really use some help about where to even start on this one, completely lost on the instructions.....

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You're looking to match the numbers with things you've already seen elsewhere.

In particular:

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Boxes that match the one containing the numbers

I must be thick, still not clear on what that means....any other nudges?

Been looking at this one for awhile, still no idea on how to even begin. Would greatly appreciate any help from the forum as I am not able to move forward....thanks!

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#16 2020-04-30 04:21:56

404
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Re: Caught out

The first thing you need to do is...

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'catch' - you need to catch the letters that fill in the empty box near the top of the page, which correspond to the numbered box directly above

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#17 2020-04-30 17:23:47

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Re: Caught out

404 wrote:

The first thing you need to do is...

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'catch' - you need to catch the letters that fill in the empty box near the top of the page, which correspond to the numbered box directly above

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Does that mean 3 = C, 4 = D and so on? If not, I have no idea how to "catch" the letters...

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#18 2020-05-02 00:17:12

404
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Re: Caught out

Cpostano wrote:

Does that mean 3 = C, 4 = D and so on? If not, I have no idea how to "catch" the letters...

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They're spread throughout the book, in the various positions inside the rectangle. There's one in code 1, for example. You need to collect them all, and write them into that empty rectangle in the same positions.

Also, although you may not wish to, you can get full hints for each section of this puzzle using the hints function on the puzzle submission page. If you click 'Hints' for this puzzle it gives instructions on what to submit for extra help on each part.

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#19 2020-05-02 14:29:44

Cpostano
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Re: Caught out

404 wrote:
Cpostano wrote:

Does that mean 3 = C, 4 = D and so on? If not, I have no idea how to "catch" the letters...

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They're spread throughout the book, in the various positions inside the rectangle. There's one in code 1, for example. You need to collect them all, and write them into that empty rectangle in the same positions.

Also, although you may not wish to, you can get full hints for each section of this puzzle using the hints function on the puzzle submission page. If you click 'Hints' for this puzzle it gives instructions on what to submit for extra help on each part.

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So for example, I went to puzzle 3 and found the letter L in the box on that page. Am I on the right track? If so, I can't findcorresponding letters for puzzles 4, 8, 10, 7, 2 or 11 so I'm still very much confused. Thanks! 

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#20 2020-05-04 01:17:13

404
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Re: Caught out

Here's an explanation of what the numbers refer to:

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The numbers are position indicators, not puzzle indicators.

As you work your way through the book, you'll see unexplained individual letters in unexplained rectangular boxes, that have nothing directly to do with the puzzle they appear in. All those rectangles are identical in their proportions.

You'll find two rectangles with the same identical proportions at the top of this particular puzzle, one with numbers in and one that's empty.

The first thing you should do is fill in the empty one - ignore the one with numbers until you have filled the rectangle.

Does that help?

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#21 2020-07-14 21:36:49

Bread
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Re: Caught out

Becky_P wrote:

I can't identify what I have created

I am having the same issue.

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At first I thought it was the geometric design in the center of code 20. Then I thought it was the weird symbol thing that is scattered through the book, with an eye on it. The Kingdom of The States seal thing. But I don't know how to interpret the shading.

Please help!

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#22 2020-07-18 22:53:23

404
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Re: Caught out

Bread wrote:
Becky_P wrote:

I can't identify what I have created

I am having the same issue.

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It's a symbol that appears on a particular page earlier in the book - the exact same symbol, made up of the exact same pixel grid.

There are other pixel symbols on the same page, but only one matches.

Oh... but one thing... don't forget the 'in verse' requirement.

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#23 2020-09-04 12:45:27

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Re: Caught out

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Can someone please tell me step by step solution to this?
I looked at hints but can't even make sense how to find those first 11 elements.

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#24 2020-09-04 16:40:21

404
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Re: Caught out

AcidBurn39 wrote:

Can someone please tell me step by step solution to this?

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I looked at hints but can't even make sense how to find those first 11 elements.

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You're looking for 11 things throughout the book that are placed in exactly the same rectangle (apart from scale and rotation). In the non-kickstarter edition (that I think you have) they also match the typeface. Copy them all out into the blank rectangle, preserving their relative positions - this is the 'catch' step. If you're right it will spell a word. Then compare these with the numbering above to do the 'combine' step.

This is the trickiest puzzle in the book, I think.

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#25 2020-09-07 08:47:37

AcidBurn39
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Re: Caught out

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Are you talking about rectangle that I can find in code 13 for example with letter T in it?

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#26 2020-09-07 09:05:41

404
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Re: Caught out

Yes smile

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#27 2020-09-07 09:10:22

AcidBurn39
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Re: Caught out

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The word I am looking for-DECORATIONS
Am I on the right track?
If so I write the word in the white rectangle on page 43.
How to continue? smile

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#28 2020-09-07 11:29:50

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Re: Caught out

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So I got first word DECORATIONS that then changes to COORDINATES
Then I shaded pairs DC, EO, CO and so on.
What To do next?
Am I on the right way?

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#29 2020-09-07 11:48:26

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Re: Caught out

SOLVED

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Look at the pages an look for black pixel shape. Word you need is next to it.
When you'll see it you'll have "a-ha" moment. Literally smile

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#30 2020-11-01 14:28:07

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Re: Caught out

I am still stuck.

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I have completed step 1 "catch". I am unclear on what exactly I need to do to for step 2 "combine".  I have read the extra hints from the solve page but I still cannot seem to figure out what I need to do.

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#31 2020-11-01 21:35:28

404
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Re: Caught out

Have you read the '43 combine' and '43 more combine' hints too? I think the second of these hints pretty much tells you exactly what to do, but I'm happy to clarify if you've read it and it wasn't clear?

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#32 2020-11-02 11:03:42

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Re: Caught out

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I guess the part I am unclear about is " make a second, rearranged copy using the numeric ordering shown" is this supposed to be a word or just a rearrangement of the letters? I am getting RNDEOIOACTS.

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#33 2020-11-02 21:12:03

404
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Re: Caught out

kimf wrote:
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I guess the part I am unclear about is " make a second, rearranged copy using the numeric ordering shown" is this supposed to be a word or just a rearrangement of the letters? I am getting RNDEOIOACTS.

This is what you do after 'catching' the letters, to 'combine' with the numbers on the page:

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Instead of numbering the letters in the word you have 'caught' as letter 1 = 3, letter 2 = 4, letter 3 = 9 etc, you need to just number them 1, 2, 3, etc and then write them out in the order shown. You'll have a different 11-letter word. So, since '3' is first, you write out letter 3. Then you write letter 4. And so on.  As you have shown, doing it the other way round doesn't produce a word.

Nearly there!

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#34 2020-11-04 21:54:41

kimf
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Re: Caught out

I just can't seem to get this puzzle figured out.

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I believe I have shaded the correct places on the graph (dc,eo,etc). And I know to look at the inverse. But I have gone through the book multiple times and cannot locate the symbol

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#35 2020-11-04 22:07:20

404
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Re: Caught out

Sounds like you have done everything correctly! If it helps, I think this is the toughest puzzle in the book.

Hint 1:

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The symbol is in a list of other 5x6 pixel images, in the foreground of an earlier puzzle (i.e. not hidden in the background at all).

Hint 2 (which tells you what code to look at) :

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Look at code 18.

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#36 2020-11-04 22:37:15

kimf
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Re: Caught out

o.m.g......I did have correct symbol. I cant believe I missed seeing it.
thanks for all your tremendous help.

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#37 2020-11-04 22:49:34

404
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Re: Caught out

No problem - hope you enjoy the other puzzles! (and well done!)

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