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#1 2019-11-18 15:16:27

Allan87
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Found the instruction but..

Hi All,

We found the instruction

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hidden in the bar code, regarding the line and letter, but we don't know to which text/paragraph it might refer to ?

Thanks !

Best,

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#2 2019-11-18 15:48:59

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Hi Allan,

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I found "Line" to be misleading.

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...until I thought about it some more. :-) Now it makes sense, although I found the answer without that part of the clue.

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#3 2019-11-18 17:05:56

Allan87
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Thanks winterer !

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Is it linked to a position in a auditorium for example ? Would it be the seat ?

Thanks !

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#4 2019-11-18 17:21:37

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Hi Allan,

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No, not seats. I should have said that I found "lines" misleading (as a non-native speaker). But thinking about it again now, a clearer hint is that a preposition is missing in the clue.

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#5 2019-11-18 17:50:27

doublecross
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Re: Found the instruction but..

A bit more help:

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The answer is more than three letters long!

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#6 2019-11-18 18:03:56

Allan87
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Hi both, thanks for your help

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does it mean anything that the message is repeated twice? Still stuck ahah

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#7 2019-11-18 18:08:39

doublecross
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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I don't think so

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#8 2019-11-18 18:45:56

Allan87
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Thanks doublecross,
Somehow i still can't figure it out, I'm missing something...

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#9 2019-11-18 18:48:20

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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State of puzzlement, how appropriate... :-) As I said, the second part confused me as well. I found the solution by concentrating on the first part (letter) and working from there. In hindsight, the second part (lines) became clear.

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#10 2019-11-18 18:58:24

doublecross
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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if the answer is more than three letters long, how could you get a longer answer while still obeying the instruction?

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#11 2019-11-18 19:54:55

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Re: Found the instruction but..

Hey, maybe I misunderstood the instructions 

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To me, it meant letter in position 2 of a sentence, but I'm guessing this means two-letters word. Still to which word/text is it referring ? Is the answer located in the left page ?

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#12 2019-11-18 19:59:20

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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yes, left page, position(s)

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#13 2019-11-18 20:06:55

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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You did not count +sandwiches as a line ? I'm probably not getting line properly..but thanks !

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#14 2019-11-18 21:17:07

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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that line counts too

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#15 2019-11-18 21:24:18

Allan87
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Thanks, finally !

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#16 2019-11-18 21:37:01

Rolytic
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Having problems with the last step here

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I think I'm supposed to find a 4 letter word here with the particular position from different lines. But I'm stumped as to which lines count and which to start from. (does "Making space for criminal liquidation" count as 1 or 2 lines? Do I count the line(s) "Remember to review your environment"?)

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#17 2019-11-18 21:54:57

Allan87
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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  All lines count including the sandwiches line, each line is one and all is written on the ticket, nowhere else wink

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#18 2019-11-19 19:04:47

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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why is the answer not EARS OR EARN

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#19 2019-11-19 19:50:46

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Re: Found the instruction but..

I agree with you, deadman.

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are we looking for a 4 letter word? All I’m getting is ears or earn too. Where am I going wrong? 

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#20 2019-11-19 19:58:42

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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You're looking for a 6 letter word. I'm not a native English speaker and I didn't know the word, it just sounded like it could be one and I tried it out, seemed to be correct.

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#21 2019-11-20 18:34:07

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Any additional help?

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#22 2019-11-21 08:20:00

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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How the .... is it a 6 letter word when the clue is Letter 2, Lines 5123?

I nearly reached my limit, I think the designer of the book should step in to explain his puzzles, if not I find it hard to trust all future Kickstarter projects already, might as wait for reviews

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#23 2019-11-21 08:32:01

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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It is not Lines 5123, you are using the s/5 twice. There is a way to satisfy the instruction and get more than three letters.

I think the puzzles are well-made, there's nothing wrong with them if they aren't that easy.

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#24 2019-11-21 09:04:34

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Re: Found the instruction but..

Yup, everyone has their own opinions. To me, Journal 29 is not easy too as I needed hints for quite a number of puzzles. However, there is the satisfaction when I read the hints or solved it (most of them, to be fair). The puzzles here are well made, I agree, but the hints are redundant. And there are more than 1 way to interpret the clues, like Lines 5123, as you say, which shouldn't be the case.

Me and my team designed escape rooms as well. Since you are here, I assume you are also a puzzle designer and understand what I meant. So if you do not agree with my feelings, it is fine smile I am just giving a review, and will give an honest one if it is released onto Amazon for example as well.

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Anyway, I still don't get it. Let's establish that I saw Letter 2 Line 5123 Letter 2 Line 5123. This is the fact right? From here, how are we supposed to know it is 6 letters? It is either 4 letters, as depicted by Letter 1, Lines 5, 1,2, 3 or 8 letters, as the message is repeated twice. There is no clue to mention it is 6 letters, except just to ' satisfy the instruction' or basically, 'trial and error'. So please enlighten me, where is the clue to determine how to solve it? I will be happy to admit I am a fool in these forums - I am not here to criticize, I am ok with admitting I am wrong smile

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#25 2019-11-21 10:12:16

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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What you read as 5 is an S.

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#26 2019-11-21 10:57:07

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Re: Found the instruction but..

Finally. that made sense now. Like I said, the hints in the website are not helpful, but with the people here, it makes things slightly easier. Thank you

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#27 2019-11-22 05:46:58

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Re: Found the instruction but..

Still not able to get the answer...

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got letter 2 lines 123.. but cant get ahead

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#28 2019-11-22 12:44:02

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Re: Found the instruction but..

Same problem

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#29 2019-11-22 14:47:50

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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It can only be either Line 5123 or Lines 123 but not Lines 5123, was my point; in fact it is the former.  There is no clue that says it is six letters, but that is what the answer has.  It is an obscure word, it has to be said. You have to get out of the mindset that e.g. letter 2 line 1 only means one letter.

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#30 2019-11-22 19:41:13

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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So we're supposed to take 2 letters from lines 1, 2, and 3 to get a six letter code?

How the <redacted> do we know which two to pick...

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#31 2019-11-22 19:48:43

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Re: Found the instruction but..

Rolytic wrote:
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So we're supposed to take 2 letters from lines 1, 2, and 3 to get a six letter code?

How the <redacted> do we know which two to pick...

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not 2 letters, but letter 2...

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#32 2019-11-22 20:09:52

Rolytic
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Re: Found the instruction but..

winterer wrote:
Rolytic wrote:
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So we're supposed to take 2 letters from lines 1, 2, and 3 to get a six letter code?

How the <redacted> do we know which two to pick...

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not 2 letters, but letter 2...

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I was going off of
"There is no clue that says it is six letters, but that is what the answer has.  It is an obscure word, it has to be said. You have to get out of the mindset that e.g. letter 2 line 1 only means one letter."

So using lines 1, 2 and 3, we need to end up with 6 letters. Hmm

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#33 2019-11-22 20:11:17

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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so we take 2 sets of the same 3 letters, but from what lines, 1,2,3, starting from where?

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#34 2019-11-22 20:43:32

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Alex55 wrote:
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so we take 2 sets of the same 3 letters, but from what lines, 1,2,3, starting from where?

You should start

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with the clue "letter 2" and see whether you can extract the appropriate number of letters using clue "lines 1, 2, 3"

And you'll find a word

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that relates to Plato's philosophy

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#35 2019-11-23 11:58:04

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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according to the instructions we must take the letter 2 from lines 123 two times. So we must take two sets of the same letters, otherwise the instruction are wrong.

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#36 2019-11-23 12:10:58

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

Alex55 wrote:
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according to the instructions we must take the letter 2 from lines 123 two times. So we must take two sets of the same letters, otherwise the instruction are wrong.

That's what I struggled with as well.

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I assume it's to make the instructions look more barcode-like.

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#37 2019-11-23 12:23:55

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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so, no same letters, then how we know what letter 2 to pick?.

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#38 2019-11-23 12:42:02

doublecross
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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you don't need to make a choice

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#39 2019-11-23 13:14:27

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

don't understand it

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#40 2019-11-23 13:59:18

doublecross
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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How many 'letter 2' do you have to choose from in line 123?

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#41 2019-11-23 15:50:08

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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line 1 second letter e, line 2 second letter o, line 3 second letter o???

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#42 2019-11-23 16:02:28

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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No, that's not the ticket... wink Also, you know how many you need, so take all you can get in lines 123.

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#43 2019-11-23 17:21:50

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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first line: making space..., letter a, second line: criminal..., letter r, line 3:includes..., letter n, right?

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#44 2019-11-23 17:28:00

winterer
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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You skipped a line. Also count the words in these lines!

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#45 2019-11-25 02:08:17

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Re: Found the instruction but..

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line 1 ... a , line 2 ... r and line 3 ... s.... how to go from there...

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#46 2019-11-27 15:48:15

Alex55
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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all the words in lines

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#47 2020-01-01 23:52:14

Cpostano
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Re: Found the instruction but..

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I am seeing Letter 2 Lines 123 twice, which is ARAARA. I entered that code and no good, any additional clues?

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#48 2020-01-02 03:24:30

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Re: Found the instruction but..

Okay figured it out  - major spoiler ahead if you dare...

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Look at the second letter of every word in the lines from the barcode clue.

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